This was an unexpected development and we are now working toward resolving both the issue of Mitten's 10k voters and figuring out the process for CSM 7 Chair.

the CSM is now a joke again

You gotta be kidding me...30 days? Perma ban is the right decision. Being friend with CCP employees is priceless, lets you go free. 30 is nothing for what damage he's done to the game. I'm really disappointed.

10,000 people didnt vote for a jackass with a big mouth,

well rules are rules and they got broken, **** happens ;)

btw: so the main reason why goons now whine is all the tech billions wasted on making new accounts and reactivate accounts to win the election (8200 votes less then 30days old)

karma is a *****

I applaud CCP for this decision, I will explain why before I am accused of being a political tool.

In the EU we have clear laws about behaviour on the internet and in public that differ dramatically from the US. in America your right to freedom of speech is guarenteed by the first ammendment. In Europe freedom of speech is limited by the law in ways your country does not it seems understand. Before you start to call us all fascists as has been said on some threads, think about the history of the last century in Europe and ask yourself why we have limited freedom of speech to protect against hate.
:words:

Again I would actually like to stress this is not a political post not a wum, This is actually somthing very good that CCP has done in sending out a clear message that certain behaviour will not be tolerated. It sucks for Alexander yes Im sure but he will bounce back from it if he wants to.

The "funny" (sad, actually) things about raging of 10k people is that:
- these players have certainly lots of alts,
- the accounts are probably paid by PLEX therefore don't have any actual money value for a big bunch of them,
- the people tend to easily forget that CSM members are representatives, therefore are less tolerated of commiting errors

/rant

Now I perfectly aggree that it is a bad news and his value in CSM was very great, that makes everyone in a very unpleasant mess. But we should also consider that CCP had no choice but enforce rules like these, and I'm pretty sure they are aware of the consequences (wouldn't surprise me that we forecome emergency meeting and other not-dev blogs).

I also aggree to the analysis that since fanfest players are being watched on, this is both good and BAD. Realtime streaming sucks. Please don't do realtime diffusions when you can't face the consequences, CCP !

Rather interesting to see that those against this decision are goons and pets. Ignore those partisan postings and the general consensus is 'well done CCP'.

You've got a point, my bad. But I stay polite :) I did'nt want to offend anyone.
Still I'd be curious of the ratio generated / paid / etc, but it's kinda out of context. My background remark was mainly: CSM voting system is not an actual image of the player base.


I want to offend you. You're dumb.
PLEX. NOT. GENERATED. The only time it appears out of thin air is for buddy program subscriptions. EVERY other plex in game is bought, with real money.
If CSM voting doesn't reflect players maybe those other players need to....vote maybe?



They don't do it for money, they do it to fight against RMT ...

When you think about it this really was a decision about who makes the decisions and calls the shots on Eve Online management and press relations: CCP Iceland or Something Awful forums. CCP made the right choice.

Your idle/pathetic threats are laughable and a waste of the arm strength it took to type them.

Here, here Xorv

If he stepped down as CHAIR only, why did this devblog state that he was stepping down from CSM6 and subsequently CSM7? Did I read the blog correctly, or am I mistaken somehow? If so then I think quite a few others are also mistaken here lol

You voted for a guy who couldn't hold his drink and used the CSM chair position and privileged position on the alliance panel to call for a fellow eve player to be trolled into suicide.

I'm sorry you wasted your vote but next time choose a better candidate.

Previous CSMs have been kicked out of the CSM while still technically in office for breaking CSM rules and there is no precedent of a re-run. Just as previous CSMs have gone afk during the process also wasting the votes entrusted to their run.

Sorry to be blunt but next time entrust your votes to a more stable candidate who knows how to behave in front of the cameras.

Lol @ goon pleb nerd rage

Why blame CCP? All they did was enforcing the TOS/EULA and gave Mittens a temp ban. You all know they had no other choice.

He resigned from his position as CSM chair, probably because he felt it was the right thing to do. Read his apology again if you are unsure about his view on the events. I find this unfortunate and I'm sorry Mittani, but not for this ridiculous bunch of whining hypocrites..

If you feel betrayed, maybe talk with him about it? Or you can also just

~deal with it~

When they break the rules of the Process by getting drunk and misusing position and panel appearance as a sadistic bully-pulpit to call for somebody to be trolled to suicide.

Its in the CSM guidelines. Do something seriously bad and you will get expelled. Alexander Gianturco knew the rules but chose to break them anyway because he figured he ran CCP.

This has never been the case for previously expelled CSM representatives. Why are you asking to be a special case?

it's crazy to think that i'm on the side of the goons on this. they are in the right, and history will remember them this way.

all you raiden dorks and jade constantine, you long winded harlot, are in the wrong and it's pathetic that you cannot see it.

CCP this is the most unintelligent maneuver you've done yet, a monkey would have made this retaliatory action fairer than you.

Tell me that isn't you Alex?

This needed to happen. If anything, this is a pretty light punishment.

First, and foremost, the action that lead to the punishment could be viewed as breaking the law in many countries in which CCP operates. Also, because this action was broadcast by CCP, the company becomes liable for that content. Those of you that enjoy Eve need to recognize this threat of potential legal action against CCP.

Secondly, the player in question resigned of his own free will as near as I can tell, so you can't really blame CCP for that.

Goons are like little kids that go nuts when they see a lolipop.
Then they demand more and more and then they cry the **** out when they are put in place with the rest.

You guys are the biggest whiney bunch of sissies I have ever seen.

All your "bad ass" look is now just a LMAO subject.

Go camp rats on belts buahaha

As am I reporting you for personal abuse each time.

The CSM reached a wrong decision. Alex Gianturco's actions were indefensible really and rather than manning up and telling him he had to go they tried to fool themselves about the scope of the damage done by Alex's drunken antics at Fanfest.

This is the problem with sycophancy in a nutshell. Last year they got so used to being beta males to the Mittani's alpha that they lost their collective backbone and the problem now is that the CSM iself is out of touch with the player base it is supposed to represent.

So you're saying that almost the entire group of player elected representatives still represent the players less that you do because...?

Is it internet space likes?

Nobody really cares since you don't represent anyone but yourself.

Well by disregarding their collective advise haven't they just done this?

"Oooooh look at me, I can use fancy words I saw in a movie once!"